we have a chat with friends from across the pond about the perception of podcasters & a very special ending from our friends Just Keep Swinging     https://shoppes77.podbean.com/ https://www.spreaker.com/show/just-keep-swinging   https://media.blubrry.com/averageswingers/content.blubrry.com/averageswingers/AS101_Average_Bed_Hoppers.mp3