Michelle and Ron are a couple of Americans living in Australia with their three young kids. They’ve been together for about ten years, married for almost nine, and exploring non-monogamy for about three. Michelle had some experience with non-monogamy before she and Ron got together and talking about those experiences was what helped crack the door open for them. They describe their dynamic as Hotwife blended with stag/vixen and our conversation goes far beyond that. They share a lot about their struggle to get pregnant, the impact it had on their relationship, and each of them individually. Ron also talks through a lot of how jealousy has been something he has had to navigate, even though at the same time he is usually excited and even turned on. This is an amazing and super fun conversation that blends some deep talks with lighthearted laughter. Enjoy!